Status: U Return-Path: Received: from web5203.mail.yahoo.com ([216.115.106.97]) by osgood.mail.mindspring.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with SMTP id t9cleb.lk0.30ahi43 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:21:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010223122129.20403.qmail@web5203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.200.23] by web5203.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 04:21:29 PST Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 04:21:29 -0800 (PST) From: MPCgram Subject: MPCGram 263 (another try for full length) To: mpcgram@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ==================================================== MPC Gram ==================================================== Covering the Entire World of Military Numismatics ---------------------------------------------------- Series 002-Number 263 Friday 23 February 2001 Amazing Exceptions in MPC Numbering by Fred Schwan Last week we had a three part series on calculating position and sheet numbers for MPC. We noted at the end of the last article that there are exceptions. Those devilish things will be covered here. Exceptions! The above system works for all fractional notes except many of those famous and amazing numbers from series 541 replacements. We now know that these numbers were the result of overall poor quality work at Tudor Press. The above system also works for the higher denominations, but there is an amazing exception! The calculations do not work for the second printing series 691 $5, $10, and $20! If you attempt to calculate the position number for 691 second printings using the system above, the result does not match the note. This phenomenon was discovered shortly after the notes became available to collectors. The solution took longer. The most likely cause for this situation was that a different number of notes was printed per sheet although there are other possibilities like printing in units of something other than 8000 sheets. A partial answer was possible by studying the numbers of the notes available, but a critical part was missing. Since the first printings were printed by the former standard (50 per sheet for $5-$20), the system changed in the middle! If both printings had been printed by the same "new" system, it would have been fairly easy to calculate the new system, but the change made it difficult. The key data came from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing that verified the quantities for the first printing! This allowed comparison of the known notes and new calculations. It seems fairly conclusive that the second printing for series 691 and 701 were printed with 56 notes per sheet for the $5, $10, and $20 denominations. Hidden away at the Bureau was one additional small item that supports this change. The item is a poor contact print of a negative of a series 701 specimen note with position number 52! By itself, this would not have been conclusive, but in conjunction with the other items it is strong supporting evidence. You can work these calculations yourself from published serial numbers and the data given below. Finally, the second printing $1 notes seem to have been printed with the same 70 notes per sheet as had been done previously. As unlikely as this seems, it is the best conclusion that we can draw at this time. Quantities of series 691 and 701 produced in the first printing $1 6,720,000 $5 1,600,000 $10 1,600,000 $20 2,000,000 (series 691) $20 6,400,000 (series 701) ==================================================== Editorial ---------------------------------------------------- We continue to have problems with the Gram being truncated. It is really hard to understand. As part of the mailing process, we have to send the gram out three times. We send one to headquarters with each mailing as a check. Yesterday, two of the three came in correctly, one was truncated. This was from exactly the same outgoing message. Technical assistance will be very welcome. In the meantime, we must admit that the gram was getting a little long. More is usually better, but still some of you are printing this thing so we must be careful to preserve some trees to make Fest money, so we will try to conserve a little. The list of Festers has been compressed starting with this issue. I hesitate to compress the list of scholarship donors but we can certainly do that after the seminar. We might consider taking that list out occassionaly when the gram is particularly long. Unless I hear a great outcry, today will be the last time that we run the full Fest schedule. We will run it again if there are any many changes or requests, but the plan is to take it out tomorrow. =================================================== Mail Call --------------------------------------------------- Editor, I enjoyed Larry Ski's article in Gram # 255. I have always wondered how the Government implemented the salvaging of Shell Cases for coin production. Who were the Military personal responsible for the salvaging, what was the process used, and how successful was the program? This was never explained in my AF / ROTC classes in college. Maybe some Gram subscriber can answer some of these questions? The answer is probably somewhere in WW2 Remembered and I missed it. Thanks Keith Dear Keith, That is a very good question. I tried to find the answer in Remembered, but just cannot find it, drat. No it is not there, but if you can find a good report we will certainly put it in next time. The salvage starts with the individual soldier. Even today when units train at the rifle ranges, the soldiers pick up the expended cases. They are gathered and turned into the ammunition people and ultimately recycled. However, the specifics of the coinage recycling are as you say a mystery. We look forward to a full report next week! Editor Dear Grammers I wish you the best for a great fest!!, sorry I can't come, the $ rate is too high this year, and Sandy has a bun in the oven, due in early fall... Greet the boss, Have a great time!! Flemming Dear Flemming, You will be missed at the Fest. Perhaps we can hold a fest in Europe some time. Oh no, I almost wish that I had not said it! Flemming, you really do have to figure out what is causing that condition with Sandy. It seems to be interferring with your collecting! On the other hand, it is sort of creating another collection and even another generation of collectors. Keep it up so to speak. Editor =================================================== Departments --------------------------------------------------- WWII numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar 2001 --------------------------------------------------- Not only does the scholarship fund have an official identity but also has a bank account! Any further donations should be paid to the order of "Military Numismatists Scholarship" and sent to: Military Numismatists c/o Marcus Turner 8103 East US Highway 36 Suite 163 Avon, IN 46123 THE UPDATED LIST OF SCHOLARSHIP BENEFACTORS 2/12/01. These folks have generously provided money or material to finance scholarships to the ANA WWII Numismatics seminar. Your contributions will help promote collecting WWII material and be greatly appreciated. Mr. Anonymous Donor Mike Cummings Sue and Keith Bauman Ed B. Doug Bell Tom Denly, Denly's R. A. Medina Harold MPCKid Kroll Leo "Paymaster" May Mrs. R.C. Matherne Bill McNease Marcus Turner Larry Ski Guido Fred PK6 Joel Shafer World Wide Ventures John & Nancy Wilson Neil Shafer W. E. Yanchick ----------------------------------------------------- MPC Fest II ----------------------------------------------------- MPC Fest is the annual feast of MPC. After some difficulties of coordination we have not changed the dates and tentatively scheduled 9-11 March 2001 for MPC Fest II. Confirmed participants in MPC Fest II Doug Bell, Sam Feeback, Al Glaser, Phil Goldstein, Rod Hardy, Wesley Hardy, Gary Hicks, Harold Kroll, Jack Lippincott, Ian Marshall, Larry Smulczenski, Bill McNease, Leo May, Kevin Maloy, Marv Mericle, Bruce Potter, David Seelye, Nick Schrier, Fred Schwan, Dan Swartz, Warner Talso (and Jane), Marcus Turner, Tom Warburton, William E Yanchick, Dick Freyser (We are well past last year's participation level. We have doubled that level. Can we triple it, more? If you have made a reservation and your name does not appear above, please contact the gram immediately (MPCgram@yahoo.com). PayPal and PayDirect are available, the associated email address is fred@papermoneyworld.com. It works great. We love it. Tentative schedule as of 15 February 2001 Holiday Inn Express, 50 NE Catawba Road, Port Clinton, OH 43452 Friday March 9 1500-1900 Arrivals at headquarters, registration 1900-2030 no host dinner Chinese take out at service club 2030-2300 bull session in day room 2200 MPC chat, day room (Wiz) 2400 lights out Saturday 0400-0530 physical training, 10k run, 2k swim (depending on ice), optional (first sergeant) 0730-0845 breakfast at dining facility 0900-1000 equipment issue (supply sergeant) 1000-1100 pay operations, orderly room (pay master) 1100-1230 show and tell, session I, day room 1230-1330 catered lunch (Submarine sandwich) 1330-1800 swap session (dealer surcharge, TBD) 1800-1930 spaghetti dinner (mess sergeant) 1930-2030 award ceremony, secret operations 2000-2345 commemorative poker game in day room 2200 MPC chat (simultaneous with poker game, Wiz) 2400 lights out Sunday 0400-0530 physical training, 10k run, 2k swim (depending on ice), optional, (first sergeant) 0830-0900 breakfast at Service Club 0900-1000 research updates 1000-1230 show and tell 1230-1330 pizza at Service Club 1300-1500 field trip to WWII POW camp 1530 closing ceremonies Monday (optional, weather permitting) 0600-0630 breakfast at NCO Club 0700-1400 Walleye fishing trip, optional Remarks: registration is $164, after March 1, $189). This includes two nights lodging (double occupancy, room assignments by first sergeant the only possible exception is married couples), Meals as indicated (Friday evening not included), equipment and amenities. The value of souvenirs and goodies distributed will likely exceed the cost of the entire Fest. Reservations accepted now at MPCGram@yahoo.com, deposits ($50 minimum) accepted at MPC Fest, 132 East Second Street, Port Clinton, Ohio 43452. Confirmed reservations will be listed daily in the gram—make your reservations now! Additional information; the Holiday Inn Express is located at 50 NE Catawba Road, Port Clinton, Oh 43452, you may use one of the online map services to get exact driving directions. DO NOT make your own reservations or inquiries. The best airports in order of distance are Toledo (45 mins), Cleveland (90 mins), Detroit (100 mins). We will try to coordinate ground transportation, but there are no guarantees here. Questions: send your questions to MPCgram@yahoo.com. In most cases the questions will be answered in the letters section of the gram. After all, if you have the question, someone else probably does too. ==================================================== Post/Base Exchange (PX/BX/NEX) Dump your dupes! Your classified advertisement for items for sale will be run here for free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for everyone, most humble dealer or most advanced collector. The point is to make the gram more interesting. Send in a list of items for sale and we will list them here in the gram. In all cases confirm your order via email first. FOR SALE Retail Merchants Bureau of Boise, Idaho "tokens," $5.00, limit ONE shipped postpaid. (please no checks on this item) WOW!! These are by the way, new, mint, as made, uncirculated or whatever you wish to call them. So in honor of Presidents Day, rush your payment to: Doric C&C POB 911 N Attleborough MA 02761-0911-11 USA Victory Peso - 2 Peso Replacement. Pick 95a in VF serial F00071929*. 100.00. Contact Tom at kochfam@gte.net MPC Series 641 50c CU $21, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/