Status: U Return-Path: Received: from web5203.mail.yahoo.com ([216.115.106.97]) by osgood.mail.mindspring.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with SMTP id tn47gi.l7i.37kbi1v for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010809052225.7458.qmail@web5203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.197.209] by web5203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Aug 2001 22:22:25 PDT Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:22:25 -0700 (PDT) From: MPCgram Subject: MPCGram 414/3 To: MPCGram@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ============================================== MPC Gram ============================================== Covering the Entire World of Military Numismatics ----------------------------------------------- Series 002-Number 414 Thurski August 9, 2001 Gronlands Administration and other stuff By Larry “Ski” Smulczenski Well Tropical Storm or near Hurricane Barry came ashore just about 10 miles to the east of us, but fortunately the 70 mile per hour winds weren't strong enough to do much damage. Some of the folks to the east of the eye got a lot of rain and flooding (around Panama City) but we ended up with only 2-3 inches of rain. I spent all day cleaning up the pine straw and pine cones that the wind blew out of the trees but that was the sum total of our damage. That was a great bit of detective work that Mr. Doric came up with to answer a lot of our questions on the Merci or Gratitude Train. Thanks for the extra effort to find that site, Mr. D., and thanks for sharing your find with us. I spent a couple of hours looking at all the pictures of the boxcars from each of the states and some of the artifacts that are pictured. I plan to visit some of the sites and museums that are listed. In fact, I'm going to go see the one in Atlanta if I get a minute while I'm at the ANA convention this week. It's great how loyal Gramsters come through with the answers when a question is posed. Having said that, I have another question that I would like to see if anyone can provide an answer for. Let me lead in with a little background. In April of 1941, an agreement was signed whereby the United States would assume responsibility for the defense of Greenland. Concern was expressed by the Greenland administration that an increasing number of supposedly affluent visitors could prove detrimental to their economy. This led to the concept of Trade Certificates to be used exclusively by foreigners when paying for goods and services in Greenland. These notes were denominated in "skillings" an old Danish denomination and were issued in three denominations, 1, 5 and 20 skillings. The exchange rate was a fixed 20 skillings to the dollar. While the theory behind the issuing of the notes appeared sound enough, the scheme proved extremely difficult in actual practice and was rather short-lived.The certificates were introduced on June 24,1941 but lasted in circulation only until Oct 28, 1942, with Nov 31 of that year as the deadline for conversion. The Trade Certificates were printed in the United States with a watermark that included "Made in the USA." In late 1983, an article appeared in Coin World saying that the Folketingets Gronlandsfond held the small remainder of these notes--approximately 1200 sets--together with some extra 20-skilling singles. Collectors could order the sets or a packet of 4 20-skilling notes for 172 Danish Kroner each. That was $17.20 US which included postage and registration from Denmark. I still have this article in my files and at that time I rushed my $17.20 for a set of the three denominations. In addition to these three notes, there were four small cardboard chits for small change. They were denominated in 1, 2, 5, and 10 ore and had "Grl Adm." printed on them. I can remember bidding on and winning a pair of the one ore and two ore chits in a NASCA Auction in the mid-80's. Somewhere along the line I also picked up a 10 ore chit. For the last fifteen plus years, I've looked for the 5 ore chit and have never seen one. And that leads me to my question. Does anyone out there know of anybody that has this cardboard chit in their collection? I would simply like to know that one exists. Then to top it all off, Michael Morris advertised a 25 ore chit in one of his sales lists. This chit is exactly like the above described chits except it does not have "Grl Adm" printed on it. I went back and looked at my chits and my bubble burst when I found that my 10 ore also was without the "Grl Adm" printing. I searched both Volumes 1 and 2 of Pick but was unable to find any reference to a chit with only a denomination on it. I called Fred and we talked about it. He had a Greenland Catalog which I didn't, but no reference is made of a chit like those pictured on page 85 of World War II Remembered without the "Grl Adm" printing. World War II Remembered. does contain the sentence--"The stamps, 1, 2, 5, and 10 ore had also been used earlier in the century for control of trade." This is the only reference that I can find for the chits without the "Grl Adm". Can anybody expand on this? I'd sure like to know when and if the sans "Grl Adm" chits were used and if anyone knows of the 5 and 10 ore chits with "Grl Adm" in collections. ============================================== Editorial ----------------------------------------------- The ANA convention is in full swing. These are always great events. I have attended every summer conventions since 1973. Unfortunately, I am not in Atlanta and will not even be able to make a cameo appearance. I was hoping to squeeze in a short visit, but cannot. Some of you know and now everyone will, we are having a serious family medical emergency. It is impacting every part of our life as you have seen. The Gram has been less regular in the past few weeks. I am sorry about this and try very hard not to miss a day, but sometimes it just cannot be helped. You can help. The more stories and articles that come in the easier it is to create a Gram. We are also gong to start leaning more on the assistant editors and possibly even recruiting some more! Send in you editorial contributions, now! ============================================== Mail Call ----------------------------------------------- Dear Gram, I'd be more than happy to work on the [seminar] committee. Cheers, Mark Watson Dear Mr. Chairman, We look forward to your leadership and a great report! Seriously, thanks for writing and for volunteering! We hope that you can get some good ideas and develop a good plan. I thought of something since writing yesterday. Certainly in the advanced class (if there is such a thing) everyone should not only write Gram articles as part of the class, but also be trained on creating and distributing the Gram! Editor Dear Editor, I am not going to ANA. Is the MPC book going to be available at Atlanta? If it is could you give a copy to Jim Fairfield and I will send you a check. I am going to the World Track and Field Championship in Canada. George Fitzgerald Dear George, See the editorial above about the ANA. The book has still not gone to the printer, but it is close. Editor ================================================ Departments --------------------------------------------------- Calendar of events for Gramsters maintained by Howard Daniel, John Wilson and Gram staff ---------------------------------------------------- August 2-5, 2001, 42nd Blue Ridge Numismatic Association, Dalton, GA (about one hour drive from the ANA Atlanta convention the following week) Over 150 Dealers Auction by Lucien Birkler, Washington, D.C. from M & M August 4-5, 2001 Meridian Area Coin Club Coin & Currency Show, Howard Johnson Inn, Meridian, MS August 7-12, 2001, ANA Convention at the Cobb Galleria Center, Atlanta, GA The Fourth Annual Paper Money & Historical Artifacts Show. Sheraton Grand hotel at Dallas/ Ft. Worth Airport. 4440 W. John Carpenter Freeway, Irving Texas 75063. August 16-19 2001. More than 75 dealers. Lyn Knight's 40th Anniversary sale August 18, 2001. AUGUST 16-19. 2001, 41st Missouri Numismatic Society Coin Festival, Hilton St. Louis Airport St. Louis, MO August 17-19, 2001, Ohio Coin Expo, Cleveland, OH, 125 tables, August 23-26, 2001, CSNS Fall Convention hosted by the MSNS in Dearborn, MI Auction by NTL/Scotsman Coins, Hyatt Regency Dearborn August 23-25, 2001, New England Coin Expo, Holiday Inn, Mansfield, MA, 130 tables August 25-26, 2001, Golden State Coin Show, CSNS 109th Convention & NASC Masonic Temple Arcadia, CA August 31-Sept. 1-2, 2001, Ohio State Coin Show, Columbus Ohio Host CNS/COINS, Marriott North September 6 - 9, 2001, Illinois Numismatic Association (ILNA) Fall Show Countryside Illinois, Chicago Countryside Banquet hall Dealer Setup Thursday 4-8 P.M., Exhibits September 13 - 16, 2001, Strasburg Currency and Stock & Bond Show, Lancaster Host Hotel, Lancaster, PA.,100 Booths, Exhibits and Educational Programs, Auction by: R. M. Smythe & Co., Inc., Contact Kevin Foley (414) 421-3498 September 13-15, 2001, Milwaukee Numismatic Society 67th Annual Show Four Points Hotel, Milwaukee, WI 115 tables, Exhibits September 15 - 16, 2001, Red Rose Coin Club 43rd Annual Fall Show, Lancaster, PA., Exhibits September 21 - 23, 2001, Paul Padget's 18th Annual Greater Cincinnati Numismatic Exposition, Sharonville Convention Center, Small Auction by Paul Padget and major paper money auction by Currency Auctions of America Contact Paul Padget at (513) 821-2143 September 21 - 23, 2001, Virginia Numismatic Association, 43rd Annual Coin Show, Northern Virginia Community College Ernst Center, Annandale, VA September 21 - 23, 2001, Bick International Expos (www.bick.net) River Palms Hotel Casino, Glendale, CA September 27 - 30, 2001, North East Ohio Coin Club, 41st Annual Show, 100 Tables, Holiday Inn, Route 82 At I-71, Strongville, OH October 4 - 7, 2001, long Beach Coin and Collectible Expo Long Beach California Convention Center, 400 booths, Educational Programs, Auctions by Heritage and Ponterio World Paper Money Fair, run by London Chapter of IBNS October 6/7, 2001 Spink Auction October 5, 2001 Phillips Auction October 4, 2001 West London Paper Money Fairs are: July 15/September 2/November 18, 2001 Important 2002 events FUN, Orlando, 10-13 Jan, 2002 ANA spring show, Jacksonville, FL, 7-9 March 2002. EXHIBIT APPLICATION DEADLINE 11 FEB 2002. [Joe Boling, John and Nancy Wilson confirmed in attendance] CPMX, Chicago Feb 28- Mar 3, 2002, Lyn Knight auction of Leo May collection March 2002 8-10 MPCFest III [reservations in order received: Guido Crapanzano, Harold Kroll, Larry Smulczenski, Gary “Got any fours” Hicks, Tom Warburton, David Seelye, Phil Goldstein, Fred Schwan {running total 8}] ANA Annual Conventin EXHIBIT APPLICATION DEAD LINE 3 JUN 2002. W.W.II numismatics seminar at ANA Summer Seminar, July 2002 -Session I (Sunday June 30 through Thursday, July 4, 2002) -Session II (Sunday, July 7 through Thursday, July 11) ANA summer show, New York City, 30 July 4 - August 2002. EXHIBIT APPLICATION DEAD LINE 3 JUN 2002. The ANA convention schedule is as follows:  2001 - Atlanta, Georgia (August 8-12)  * 2002 - Jacksonville, Florida (March 7-9)  * 2002 - New York City, New York (July 31 - August 4) * 2003 - Charlotte, North Carolina (March)  * 2003 - Baltimore, Maryland (July)  * 2004 - Portland, Oregon (March)  * 2004 - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (date to be announced)  * 2005 - Kansas City, Missouri (March)  * 2005 - California (city and date to be announced)  * 2006 - Denver, Colorado (date to be announced)  * 2007 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin (date to be announced)  These are the proposed convention sites and are subject to change by the Board of Governors. --------------------------------------------------- Donations are now being accepted for scholarships to the 2002 "Military Money" course at the 2002 ANA Summer Seminar. Inquiries and donations should be sent to: Military Numismatists c/o Marcus Turner 8103 East US Highway 36 Suite 163 Avon, IN 46123 Donors to 2002 Scholarship Fund Steve Feller Harold Kroll R. A. Medina ==================================================== Post/Base Exchange (PX/BX/NEX) Dump your dupes! Your classified advertisement for items for sale will be run here for free. Send your ads to the gram. This service is for everyone, most humble dealer or most advanced collector. The point is to make the gram more interesting. Send in a list of items for sale and we will list them here in the gram. In all cases confirm your order via email first. FOR SALE Series 681 $0.50 Gem Crisp UNC, fresh from pack $20.00 insured postpaid. coinman@rochester.rr.com Italy 10 Lira series 1943A A.UNC to UNC $15.00 insured postpaid coinman@rochester.rr.com WANTED Collectors may submit lists of items wanted for their collections for listing here. 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